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Registered No litigation declared Residential / Group Housing project

Vengurlekars Chaitra

By Vengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited

RG-MH-10289 · RERA P51800005637 · Last updated on MahaRERA portal: 23 Apr 2025

Source: official MahaRERA filing

Red flags

  • 6 complaints at MahaRERA
  • Completion date moved by 84 months
  • 3 extensions taken

Clear

  • No litigation declared
  • No encumbrance on the project land
  • Separate project account declared
  • Allotment letter follows the model form

3 conditions are on this record. What each one means for someone buying here, and what the promoter's own filed documents say behind it, is what the buyer report adds.

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Dec 2026Possession promisedmoved 84 months from the original
7 of 9Construction stages donefurthest along: Plinth, 0%
29 of 62Units unsoldnot recorded sold or booked
6Complaints at MahaRERAon this registration
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Vengurlekars Chaitra is a Residential / Group Housing project by Vengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited in Mumbai Suburban, Maharashtra, registered with MahaRERA as P51800005637 on 11 Aug 2017. Possession is promised by 31 Dec 2026. The completion date has moved by 84 months from the original filing. 33 of the 62 units on this registration are recorded sold or booked, and 7 of 9 construction stages are filed complete. 6 complaints are on record with the regulator.

At a glance

Project

  • NameVengurlekars Chaitra
  • TypeResidential / Group Housing
  • Location
    • J P Road
    • Azad Nagar No 1
    • Andheri
    • Mumbai Suburban
    • 400053
  • Pincode400053
  • MapView location on Google Maps (as filed on RERA)
  • RERA no.P51800005637
  • ReraGenie IDRG-MH-10289

Builder

  • NameVengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited
  • Entity typeCompany
  • DirectorVijay Moreshwar Vengurlekar

Key dates

this monthRegisteredAug 2017First promiseDec 2019Revised toDec 2026

Key facts

Registration and timeline

  • StatusRegistered
  • Registered on11 Aug 2017
  • Promised completion31 Dec 2026
  • Revised completionRevised to 31 Dec 2026 (originally 31 Dec 2019)
  • Buildings1 building record
  • Documents filed131 files

Current status

53%33 of 62 units booked
75.2%Work done, per cost certificate

Figures as on 23 Apr 2025, this project's latest MahaRERA filing.

Buildings and wings, as sanctioned

BuildingWingFloors sanctionedHabitable floorsResidential unitsOther unitsTotal
Chaitra CHS LtdNA212062062

The full filing

Everything below is from the project's own MahaRERA filing, free to read. The Rs 499 buyer report reads the filed documents themselves and puts the findings in plain language.

Construction progress by building1

As on 23 Apr 2025, the date of the latest filing. The RERA activity checklist for each building, from the promoter's latest quarterly progress filing. These are the promoter's own figures, not an independent inspection.

7 of 9 construction stages are filed complete. The stage furthest along is Plinth, at 0%.

Chaitra CHS Ltd: 78% average across the applicable activities

ActivityProgress
Excavation100%
Basement (if any)Not applicable
Podiums (if any)Not applicable
Plinth0%
Stilt Floor100%
Slabs of Super Structure100%
Internal walls, Intemal Plaster, Floorings, Floors and windows within Flats/Premises100%
Sanitary Fittings within the flats / premises100%
Staircases, Lifts Wells and Lobbies at each Floor level Overhead and Underground Water Tanks100%
External plumbing and external plaster, elevation, completion of terraces with waterproofing of the Building / wing.100%
Installation of Lifts, water pumps, Fire Fighting Fittings and Equipment as per CFO NOC, Electrical fittings, mechanical equipment, compliance to conditions ofenvironment/CRZ NOC, Finishing to entrance lobby/s, plinth protection. paving of areas appurtenant to Building/Wing, Compound Wall and all other requirements as may be required to complete project as per specifications in agreement of Sale.0%

Progress on shared amenities15

As on 23 Apr 2025, the date of the latest filing. Lifts, roads, water and the other shared works, from the same quarterly filing, and reported by the promoter rather than inspected.

Common facilityProposedProgress
Internal Roads & FootpathsNoNot applicable
Water SupplyYes100%
Sewerage (Chamber, Lines, Septic Tank , STP)NoNot applicable
Storm Water DrainsYes0%
Landscaping & Tree PlantingYes100%
Street LightingNoNot applicable
Community BuildingsNoNot applicable
Treatment And Disposal Of Sewage And Sullage WaterNoNot applicable
Solid Waste Management And DisposalNoNot applicable
Water conservation /Rain water harvestingNoNot applicable
Energy managemcntNoNot applicable
Fire protection and fire safety requirementsYes0%
Electrical meter room, sub-station, receiving stationNoNot applicable
Aggregate area of recreational Open SpaceNoNot applicable
Open ParkingNoNot applicable

Parking filed38

Slots recorded per building wing in the filing. MahaRERA does not publish a two wheeler or four wheeler split, visitor parking, or the sanctioned allotment, so this is provision as filed and not a comparison against the approved plan.

Total parking slots38
Closed/Covered28
Open Space10

Land and ownership

Declared none is the promoter's own declaration to the regulator, not a title search. A search at the sub-registrar is what confirms it.

Land area677 sq m
Land owned byThe promoter
Named landownersNone
Encumbrance on the landDeclared none
CERSAI search filedYes
Declared on15 Jun 2026

Approvals and building plan

Sanctioning authorityBUILDING PERMISSION CELL, GREATER MUMBAI MHADA
Permissible FSI3500.0
Proposed, not sanctioned3,163 sq m
Buildings approved1
Buildings sanctioned1

Project account and cost

70 percent of buyer money must sit in the project account. Account numbers are not published by MahaRERA, so check that your agreement for sale names a designated account for this project and pay into that account only.

Separate project accountDeclared
Bank branchReis Magos Sutrale Road Off Chandavarkar Lane Borivali West Mumbai 400092
Estimated costRs 24.00 cr
Cost incurredRs 18.05 cr
Work done75.22%
BuildingWingEstimatedIncurred
Chaitra CHS LtdNARs 24.00 crRs 18.05 cr

Certifying professionals and partners5

Form 1, 2 and 3 certificates from these professionals release the promoter's withdrawals from the 70 percent account.

RoleName
ArchitectShilp Associates
ArchitectShri Arch Architect and Interior Design
EngineerTechflow Consulting Engineers
EngineerMB Consultant
Chartered AccountantD.S.K ASSOCIATES
PartnerRole in project
Vengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited-

Extensions applied for3

A revised date filed with the regulator does not change the possession date in your agreement for sale.

EXT51800005086Dec 2019 → Dec 2021

Reason as filed by the promoterRespected Sir 1. M/s. Swastik Realty Pvt. Ltd. was the earlier developer of the Project however due to financial position the Project was takeover by us vide Assignment Agreement dated 12/07/2019 and Change of promoter was accepted by your authority on 28/08/2019. 2. FSI of the Project is also increasing . 3. Since the Project required practically more time to complete, hence it is not possible to complete the project by 31/12/2019, therefore extension is required. 4. flat purchasers has consented for the extension of the Project completion 5. The society has also approved the extension of the

EXT51800012575Dec 2019 → Dec 2024

Reason as filed by the promoterDUE TO COVID-19 AND PERMISSION DELAY THE PROJECT WAS NOT ABLE TO GET COMPLETED ON TIME. WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST YOU TO FURTHER GRANT US EXTENSION TILL 30/12/2024

EXT51800025077Dec 2019 → Dec 2026

Reason as filed by the promoterOn July 12, 2019, an Assignment Agreement was formalized Between Vengu Shreesai Builders & Developers, Chaitra CHSL, and Swastik Realty. Following RERA certificate was granted to Vengurlekars Shreesai Builders & Develop December 2019. The commencement certificate was issued to Azad Nagar Chaitra CHS LTD. Oct 2015, which pertained to only 11th (pt) floor (Eleven part). The proje experienced slow progress over the years. We were appointed to brin construction of the project to completion. On humanitarian grounds, Vengu Shreesai Builders & Developers Pvt. Ltd, made the decision to prioritize the

Complaints filed with MahaRERA6

Case no.ComplainantRespondentFiled
CC006000000012198YASH NANDKISHOR BHANDARIM/S. SWASTIK REALITY PVT LTD02/12/2017
CC12501486mita Milan PatangeVengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited03/05/2025
CC12601244Sanjay Rampriya Singhnitin vengurlekar07/03/2026
CC12601467Dipak Valjibhai HathiyaniVengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited16/03/2026
CC12601914ADARSH BIJAPURVengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited31/03/2026
CC12603649Chandan kumar karanVengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited12/06/2026

The permission chain

The permissions a project needs, in the order they happen, matched to MahaRERA's own document slots. A slot on the file means the promoter uploaded a document there; it is not proof the permission was granted, and the filing carries no issue dates. An empty slot is not proof an approval is missing.

  1. Legal title reportOn the file

    A lawyer's report on who owns the land and what is registered against it.

    uploaded 11 Jan 2020
  2. Layout approvalOn the file

    The planning authority's approval of how the plots and buildings sit on the land.

    uploaded 24 May 2024
  3. Building plan approvalOn the file

    Sanction of the building plans themselves, filed as an IOD in Mumbai and as a plan approval elsewhere.

    uploaded 18 May 2024
  4. Commencement CertificateOn the file

    Permission to begin construction. On a plotted development the same slot carries the NA order instead.

    uploaded 18 May 2024Confirm the Commencement Certificate covers the specific floor you are buying.
  5. Occupancy CertificateOn the file

    The legal go-ahead to move in. It comes at the end, so its absence on a project still under construction is expected.

    uploaded 14 Jun 2024

Documents filed131

As listed on the registration, named by the MahaRERA slot each file was filed under, with the promoter's own file name beneath; the newest 80 of 131 are shown. The files themselves are available at source: open this registration on the MahaRERA portal. We publish what the filing says and never host the promoter's documents in place of it.

DocumentUploaded
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: Architect certificate 18-04-2025.pdf23 Apr 2025
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: CA certificate 17-04-2025 (1).pdf23 Apr 2025
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: Engineer certificate18-04-2025.pdf23 Apr 2025
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: form 1.pdf20 Jan 2025
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: form 3.pdf20 Jan 2025
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: form 2.pdf20 Jan 2025
Declaration in FORM BFile: Rera affidavit.pdf3 Jan 2025
Engineers Certificate on Quality Assurance (Form 2A FY 2019-20)File: form 2A 19-20.pdf18 Nov 2024
Disclosure of sold/ booked inventoryFile: Disclosure of Sold inventory.pdf18 Nov 2024
Engineers Certificate on Quality Assurance (Form 2A FY 2023-24)File: form 2A 23-24.pdf18 Nov 2024
Annual Audit Report of Statutory CA (Form 5) (FY 2023-24)File: form 5 23-24.pdf18 Nov 2024
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: form 1.pdf21 Oct 2024
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: form 3.pdf21 Oct 2024
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: form 2.pdf21 Oct 2024
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: form 1.pdf22 Jul 2024
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: form 2.pdf22 Jul 2024
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: form 3.pdf22 Jul 2024
Occupancy Certificate/ Completion Certificate/ Architect's certificate of completion for plotted developmentFile: PART OCCUPATION CERTIFICATE.pdf14 Jun 2024
Layout approvalFile: Plans 1.pdf24 May 2024
Layout approvalFile: Plans 2.pdf24 May 2024
Layout approvalFile: Plans 3.pdf24 May 2024
Layout approvalFile: Plans 4.pdf24 May 2024
Copy of Layout Approval (in case of layout)File: Plans 1.pdf24 May 2024
Copy of Layout Approval (in case of layout)File: Plans 2.pdf24 May 2024
Copy of Layout Approval (in case of layout)File: Plans 3.pdf24 May 2024
Copy of Layout Approval (in case of layout)File: Plans 4.pdf24 May 2024
Building plan approvalFile: IOA.pdf18 May 2024
Building Plan Approval (IOD)File: IOA.pdf18 May 2024
Commencement Certificates / NA Order for plotted developmentFile: Further CC.pdf18 May 2024
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: Architect certificate Oct,Nov,Dec 23.pdf22 Apr 2024
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: Architect certificate Jan, Feb,March 24.pdf22 Apr 2024
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: Engineer Certificate Oct,Nov,Dec 23.pdf22 Apr 2024
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: Engineer Form 2 JAN,FEB,MAR 24.pdf22 Apr 2024
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: CA Certificate Oct,Nov,Dec 23.pdf22 Apr 2024
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: Chartered account certificate JAN,FEB,MAR 24.pdf22 Apr 2024
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: FORM-3 CA CERTIFICATE.pdf18 Oct 2023
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM-1 ARCHITECT CERTIFICATE 30 SEPT 2023.pdf17 Oct 2023
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: Form 2 - ENGINEERS CERTIFICATE 30 SEPT 2023 1.pdf17 Oct 2023
Engineers Certificate on Quality Assurance (Form 2A FY 2022-23)File: ENGINEER FORM 2A 22-23.pdf30 Sep 2023
Annual Audit Report of Statutory CA (Form 5) (FY 2022-23)File: Vengurlekars Chaitra Form 5 Signed 22-23.pdf30 Sep 2023
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM-1 ARCHITECT CERTIFICATE 30 JUNE 2023.pdf15 Jul 2023
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM-2 ENGINEERS CERTIFICATE 30 JUNE 2023.pdf15 Jul 2023
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: FORM 3 CA CERTIFICATE 30 JUNE 2023.pdf15 Jul 2023
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: ARCHITECT CERTIFICATE.pdf25 Apr 2023
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: ENGINEERS CERTIFICATE.pdf25 Apr 2023
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: CHATERED ACCOUNTANT CERTIFICATE.pdf25 Apr 2023
Proforma of Agreement for saleFile: AGREEMENT FOR SALE.pdf24 Feb 2023
Proforma of Agreement for saleFile: AGREEMENT FOR SALE.pdf24 Feb 2023
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM 1.pdf11 Jan 2023
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: ENGINEER FORM 2.pdf11 Jan 2023
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: ENGINEER FORM 2 (2).pdf11 Jan 2023
Engineers Certificate on Quality Assurance (Form 2A FY 2021-22)File: ENGINEER FORM 2A.pdf11 Jan 2023
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: CA CERTIFICATE FORM 3.pdf11 Jan 2023
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM 1.pdf18 Oct 2022
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM 2.pdf18 Oct 2022
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: FORM 3.pdf18 Oct 2022
Annual Audit Report of Statutory CA (Form 5) (FY 2021-22)File: FORM 5.pdf18 Oct 2022
Disclosure of sold/ booked inventoryFile: INVENTRY DETAILS.pdf20 Sep 2022
Declaration about Commencement CertificateFile: CC COVERING LETTER.pdf19 Sep 2022
CERSAI detailsFile: CERSAI DECLERATION.pdf19 Sep 2022
Occupancy Certificate/ Completion Certificate/ Architect's certificate of completion for plotted developmentFile: part oc.pdf12 Aug 2022
Occupancy Certificate/ Completion Certificate/ Architect's certificate of completion for plotted developmentFile: oc plans.pdf12 Aug 2022
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM-1.pdf11 Jul 2022
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM-2.pdf11 Jul 2022
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: FORM-3.pdf11 Jul 2022
Layout approvalFile: MYSCAN_20220125_0001.pdf15 Apr 2022
Layout approvalFile: MYSCAN_20220125_0002.pdf15 Apr 2022
Layout approvalFile: MYSCAN_20220125_0003.pdf15 Apr 2022
Layout approvalFile: MYSCAN_20220125_0004.pdf15 Apr 2022
Copy of Layout Approval (in case of layout)File: MYSCAN_20220125_0001.pdf15 Apr 2022
Copy of Layout Approval (in case of layout)File: MYSCAN_20220125_0002.pdf15 Apr 2022
Copy of Layout Approval (in case of layout)File: MYSCAN_20220125_0003.pdf15 Apr 2022
Copy of Layout Approval (in case of layout)File: MYSCAN_20220125_0004.pdf15 Apr 2022
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM 1 (2).pdf6 Apr 2022
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM 2.pdf6 Apr 2022
Engineers Certificate on Quality Assurance (Form 2A FY 2020-21)File: FORM 2A.pdf6 Apr 2022
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: FORM 3 CA.pdf6 Apr 2022
Certificates of Architect (Form 1)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM 1.pdf7 Jan 2022
Certificates of Engineer (Form 2)(Mandatory for only ongoing project)File: FORM 2.pdf7 Jan 2022
Certificates of CA (Form 3)File: FORM 3.pdf7 Jan 2022

How this compares with Mumbai Suburban

53%of this project is bookeddistrict median 30%
33%of Mumbai Suburban projects moved their completion datethis one moved by 84 months
21%of Mumbai Suburban registrations have lapsed or been cancelledthis one is on the register

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Builder: Vengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited

Vengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited has 1 registration on MahaRERA, including Vengurlekars Chaitra. Its filings disclose no earlier MahaRERA projects. Read the full track record. See more projects on the Mumbai Suburban district page.

Frequently asked questions

What are my rights if Vengurlekars Chaitra is delayed beyond 31 Dec 2026?

Under section 18 of the RERA Act you may stay in the project and claim interest for every month of delay, or exit and claim a full refund with interest. In Maharashtra the rate is SBI's highest MCLR plus 2 percent, currently 10.90% per annum (June 2026). The free delay interest calculator on ReraGenie puts a rupee figure on any delay. Claims are filed as MahaRERA complaints with a Rs 5,000 fee.

How do I verify and contact the developer of Vengurlekars Chaitra?

The registered promoter entity is Vengurlekars Shreesai Builders and Developers Private Limited, a company as per the filing. Neither this filing nor this promoter's other MahaRERA registrations disclose a CIN, LLPIN or GSTIN for this entity. Your agreement for sale must name this exact entity, not a group brand name. The promoter's registered address and contact details are on the project's MahaRERA listing (scan the QR code on any advertisement) and in its filed documents. The Rs 499 buyer report includes all of them as a single ZIP, foldered by type.

Is my payment protected in Vengurlekars Chaitra?

Partly, by law. 70 percent of every buyer payment must go into the project's designated bank account, withdrawable only against architect, engineer and CA certificates as construction progresses; since July 2024 MahaRERA requires a three-account structure for collections. Separately, a promoter cannot take more than 10 percent of the price before signing a registered agreement for sale (section 13). Neither rule guarantees completion; they limit how far your money can travel from the project.

How do I read the complaint cases filed against Vengurlekars Chaitra?

Each case number above is a complaint MahaRERA hears in public. On the MahaRERA website, open Complaint Details and search the CC number: the order PDFs, hearing dates and disposal status are free to download. Orders bind the promoter. Before booking, check whether past orders were complied with, not just whether complaints exist; an ignored order is a stronger warning than the complaint itself.

How current is the construction progress shown for Vengurlekars Chaitra?

Promoters must file a quarterly progress report within 20 days of each quarter end, certified by the architect (Form 1), engineer (Form 2) and chartered accountant (Form 3). The figures above come from the latest filing, so they can trail the site by up to a quarter. A promoter who stops filing QPRs altogether invites penalties under section 61, and a stale filing date is itself a warning sign worth checking on the portal.

Who certifies construction progress at Vengurlekars Chaitra?

The professionals named in the filing: Architect: Shilp Associates; Architect: Shri Arch Architect and Interior Design; Engineer: Techflow Consulting Engineers; Engineer: MB Consultant; Chartered Accountant: D.S.K ASSOCIATES. Their Form 1 (architect), Form 2 (engineer) and Form 3 (chartered accountant) certificates are what unlock the promoter's withdrawals from the 70 percent account, so their names on record are part of the project's accountability chain.

What should I check before booking in Vengurlekars Chaitra?

Four things this page cannot decide for you: that the carpet area in your agreement matches the filed carpet area (the model agreement allows only a 3 percent variation, with a refund right below that); that the agreement follows MahaRERA's model clauses with deviations highlighted; the promoter's record on their other projects, not just this one; why the completion date was revised and what the new timeline depends on. The Rs 499 buyer report works through all of them from the filings.

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